Antigone - discussion summary

Antigone
- There is some disagreement about who did the first burial (Gods or Antigone)
- There is big theme on the role of women
- Historic role of women: bury the death after the war in military- Antigone is able or not to understand Crion predicament?
- Head strong nature made her act in the way she did, which was not the best approach
- Family is famous to be curse, playing the fate ofthe family
- Obeying the laws of the gods instead of the men

Crion
- Sympathetic because being in a position of leader is always tough
- Making an example for traitors and fear his throne tobecome weaker
- What's at stake? Afraid people start seeing cracks in his authority
- There is a cultural aspect, because there are ones that put the law in front of everything
- Crion is justfollowing the law stablished as law before him
- "Rudeless truth teller" that leaders hate
- Deal with the complexity of the world with our limited capacity, so we break it in pieces/frames. Framing is anecessary device, we have to pick. Antigone pick a religious frame, and Crion pick the law/state order frame. Once you pick the frame, everything follows. No one know the right frame, so this courseis about exercising your picking frames. Picking frames is a human dilemma. No frame is perfect, and a wise person recognize if the frame selected is the proper course of action, or needs to bechanged.
- Antigone made for Crion
- He finally listen to the wise person, and switch from one frame to the other
- It's very difficult for Crion to deviate from his original decision, but the emotionalside is very tough dealing with his son, and even punishing his own family

How to deal different with the dilemma and avoid the tragedy?
- Have some compassion and allow the burial
- More strongleader might have act differently

Crion come to sense at the end, but too late
In order to gain wisdom, do you have to suffer?
- Two different issues: how to treat a traitor and how to treat a...